Comments on: Conference Bowl Rankings Past Decade http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 07:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: WSU " Shocker" http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 WSU " Shocker" Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:17:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-1113 I think YOU need to check YOUR facts! How's the Big 12 look now. I think your problem is when your mouth opened all of this non factual b.s. comes out and you believe it! okie state top 10 no way try top 5 Baylor HEISMAN, even the Cats are back. Everything evens out. try not to be so jaded. I think YOU need to check YOUR facts! How’s the Big 12 look now. I think your problem is when your mouth opened all of this non factual b.s. comes out and you believe it! okie state top 10 no way try top 5 Baylor HEISMAN, even the Cats are back. Everything evens out. try not to be so jaded.

]]> By: Rookysluk1919 http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Rookysluk1919 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:08:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-998 well these stats are crap because ESPN and the media make every other SEC conference game against a ranked team. factor out those non-conference games and they're no different than any other conference. well these stats are crap because ESPN and the media make every other SEC conference game against a ranked team.
factor out those non-conference games and they’re no different than any other conference.

]]> By: Brspamster http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-992 Brspamster Thu, 01 Sep 2011 00:10:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-992 Going into fall 2011, this weekend kicking things off with LSU-Oregon, has anyone noticed that the Big 12 is once again grossly overrated in the preseason rankings?  It is baffling. Consider all of the Big 12's recent preseason rankings and contrast with their bowl and other nationally relevant win-loss records.  Every year they have multiple teams rated high in the preseason.  Then by virtue of that, of not having a significant non-conference regular season, being a top-heavy conference (not to lose sight of the point that the top teams are very overrated), and the inertia that exists in the polls, the Big 12 teams get waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much press throughout the season and ultimately are awarded bowl games that are too generous. Someone needs to get at the truth here.  It is irrational.  Is it market driven?  I think so.  As in, the biggest markets, which have the biggest brand names worth the most $, are favored in the media. If anything there is evidence based on recent history that the Big 12 should not have the teams ranked in the top 10 that it does going into 2011.  Perhaps OU deserves to be top 10, but #1?  And Okie State and A&M also in the top 10?  There is no evidence to suggest this is reality. The Big 12 hasn't won a national championship since Vince Young did it.  Outside of that singular, individual performance, they haven't even been close.  Whether TX was close, or should have even had the opportunity to be in the game versus Bammer, a couple of years ago is debatable.  You can't look at Big 12 regular season records because none of them play anybody.  Look at the data and please prove this to be incorrect.  I want to understand but I can't. The only bottom line (i.e. $) reason this matters is because, once teams are ranked high, outside of total meltdown it is almost impossible for them to drop out of the top rankings (see 2010 Texas Longhorns).  So when the BCS rankings and bowl games roll around, the Big 12's reward is unjustified and opportunities other schools should have never materialize. Think the media has an incentive to keep the biggest names in the rankings headlines? The Big 12 in the last ten years is absolutely and by far the most overrated conference in the nation.  Please dis-spell this by the numbers.  You can't.  Under 500 in bowls, under 500 versus ranked teams in bowls.  And despite this, multiple top 10 teams in the preseason every year. Why isn't this written about and studied more? Going into fall 2011, this weekend kicking things off with LSU-Oregon, has anyone noticed that the Big 12 is once again grossly overrated in the preseason rankings?  It is baffling.

Consider all of the Big 12′s recent preseason rankings and contrast with their bowl and other nationally relevant win-loss records.  Every year they have multiple teams rated high in the preseason.  Then by virtue of that, of not having a significant non-conference regular season, being a top-heavy conference (not to lose sight of the point that the top teams are very overrated), and the inertia that exists in the polls, the Big 12 teams get waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much press throughout the season and ultimately are awarded bowl games that are too generous.

Someone needs to get at the truth here.  It is irrational.  Is it market driven?  I think so.  As in, the biggest markets, which have the biggest brand names worth the most $, are favored in the media.

If anything there is evidence based on recent history that the Big 12 should not have the teams ranked in the top 10 that it does going into 2011.  Perhaps OU deserves to be top 10, but #1?  And Okie State and A&M also in the top 10?  There is no evidence to suggest this is reality.

The Big 12 hasn’t won a national championship since Vince Young did it.  Outside of that singular, individual performance, they haven’t even been close.  Whether TX was close, or should have even had the opportunity to be in the game versus Bammer, a couple of years ago is debatable. 

You can’t look at Big 12 regular season records because none of them play anybody.  Look at the data and please prove this to be incorrect.  I want to understand but I can’t.

The only bottom line (i.e. $) reason this matters is because, once teams are ranked high, outside of total meltdown it is almost impossible for them to drop out of the top rankings (see 2010 Texas Longhorns).  So when the BCS rankings and bowl games roll around, the Big 12′s reward is unjustified and opportunities other schools should have never materialize.

Think the media has an incentive to keep the biggest names in the rankings headlines?

The Big 12 in the last ten years is absolutely and by far the most overrated conference in the nation.  Please dis-spell this by the numbers.  You can’t.  Under 500 in bowls, under 500 versus ranked teams in bowls.  And despite this, multiple top 10 teams in the preseason every year.

Why isn’t this written about and studied more?

]]> By: Redsuit http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-923 Redsuit Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:02:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-923  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans

]]> By: Redsuit http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-924 Redsuit Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:02:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-924  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans

]]> By: Redsuit http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-925 Redsuit Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:02:00 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-925  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans  bullcrap, SDSU is the best nonconference game that Michigan plays this year.  otherwise they only play Notre Dame and the Directional Michigans

]]> By: RussN http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-519 RussN Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:04:55 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-519 so the MWC beating teams in last 2 years like Cal, Oregon St, Tennessee, Clemson, UCLA, Oklahoma & Alabama - you mean all those "weaker" bcs teams? Of course the MWC did also beat some weak bcs teams like Colo, Ariz, ASU, Louisville & Mich. and several non-bcs bowl teams like Fresno St, Houston & Nevada. <br>The MWC loves playing SEC, but why o why won't the SEC come to our stadiums??? <br>Why won't Florida leave their state for a ooc game??? Much easier to do well when you have 7 home games like some SEC teams do. so the MWC beating teams in last 2 years like Cal, Oregon St, Tennessee, Clemson, UCLA, Oklahoma & Alabama – you mean all those “weaker” bcs teams? Of course the MWC did also beat some weak bcs teams like Colo, Ariz, ASU, Louisville & Mich. and several non-bcs bowl teams like Fresno St, Houston & Nevada.
The MWC loves playing SEC, but why o why won't the SEC come to our stadiums???
Why won't Florida leave their state for a ooc game??? Much easier to do well when you have 7 home games like some SEC teams do.

]]> By: Mdhardinatl http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/conference-bowl-rankings-past-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Mdhardinatl Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:23:36 +0000 http://blog.philsteele.com/?p=2953#comment-504 Not really a suprise that the MW has so many wins, they beat up on non-BCS Confernece Teams, and weak BCS Conference Teams. THe Big Ten On the other hand, rarely play a Non-BCS team, and is usually playing in to BCS Bowls, play Top Teir SEC and Big 12 Teams. Try applying the Strength of Schedule to the Bowl Schedule and see how they rank. Not really a suprise that the MW has so many wins, they beat up on non-BCS Confernece Teams, and weak BCS Conference Teams. THe Big Ten On the other hand, rarely play a Non-BCS team, and is usually playing in to BCS Bowls, play Top Teir SEC and Big 12 Teams. Try applying the Strength of Schedule to the Bowl Schedule and see how they rank.

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