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Two Deep Breakdown By Class Update

For more than 7 years I have published an “Experience Chart” in my National College Football Preview. The old version of this chart just took into account the overall experience from the 2 deep for each squad. Last year I revised the Experience Chart and created a New and Improved version. The new chart uses 20% of the experience grade from the old chart, 20% from the % of lettermen returning, 20% from the % of tackles returning, 20% from the % of yards returning and 20% from the career starts of the offensive line.

The most experienced teams when using the old chart were usually the service academies which play a lot of seniors and juniors. Using the old method (which is listed below) the top 5 most experienced teams in terms of upperclassmen in the two deep are: 1. Hawaii 2. Navy 3. Army 4. Air Force and 5. UAB. Iowa St ranks the highest among BCS teams coming in at #11.

The least experienced teams using this method are: 120. LSU 119. New Mexico 118. BYU 117. Vanderbilt and 116. Rutgers. The next paragraph is an explanation of how the chart works and below that is the old version of the Experience Chart.

Experience can be a big thing in college football. A player gains valuable experience for every year he plays and becomes a better player because of it. Players also mature physically while they are in college and there is a big difference between a raw 17 or 18 year old true freshman and a mature and physically stronger 22 year old senior. Some teams that send their players away on missions, like BYU, routinely have Seniors up to 25 years old. There is also a coaching adage that for every freshman starter you have, you lose one game. With that in mind, we compiled the following chart. It lists the total amount of senior starters on the team as well as seniors in the two deep. It also shows all of the juniors, sophomores and freshmen starters and the total amount in the two deep.

To formulate a point system, I awarded 3 points for every senior starter (2.5 for every additional senior in the two deep) 2 points for every junior starter (1.5 for every additional junior in the two deep) 1 point for a sophomore starter (0.5 for every additional soph in the 2 deep then subtracted 1 point for every frosh starter and .5 for every frosh in the two deep. The total points column uses that formula to figure out the points awarded to a team. The number before the team is where they came up in my overall ranking of all the teams in the NCAA.

The two-deep was derived from my projected starting line-ups in this years magazine but does include all injuries, transfers and suspensions that have occurred since May. Also this chart accounts for only the 22 positions on offense and defense and does not include special teams players. There have been some notable changes since my blog on June 3rd if you want to compare the changes

2 Deep Breakdown According to Class

Rank SR ST SR 2D JR ST JR 2D SO ST SO 2D FR ST FR 2D Pts
1 HAWAII 12 10 9 7 1 5 0 0 93
2 NAVY 13 4 7 13 2 5 0 0 87
3 ARMY 13 7 5 7 4 8 0 0 85
4 AIR FORCE 10 6 10 8 2 8 0 0 83
5 UAB 7 8 11 10 4 2 0 2 82
6 IDAHO 11 7 8 7 3 5 0 3 81
7 OHIO 11 6 7 8 4 6 0 2 80
7 NORTH TEXAS 10 5 7 11 5 5 0 1 80
7 UTAH STATE 10 6 11 8 1 4 0 4 80
10 UTEP 14 6 6 5 1 8 1 3 79
11 IOWA STATE 10 2 8 13 4 7 0 0 78
12 AUBURN 13 5 6 7 3 5 0 5 77
12 NEW MEXICO STATE 10 6 9 7 3 5 0 4 77
14 ARKANSAS STATE 9 6 8 8 5 5 0 3 76
14 MIDDLE TENNESSEE 12 3 6 11 3 6 1 2 76
16 IOWA 11 5 7 7 4 6 0 4 75
16 MEMPHIS 10 7 6 7 5 5 1 3 75
18 KANSAS STATE 10 4 8 8 4 7 0 3 74
18 LOUISVILLE 14 6 6 4 2 3 0 9 74
18 LOUISIANA TECH 10 6 7 5 5 8 0 3 74
21 OREGON 12 4 5 9 5 3 0 6 73
21 CALIFORNIA 9 6 9 6 3 7 1 3 73
21 WASHINGTON 7 5 8 10 7 5 0 2 73
21 ARKANSAS 8 6 11 5 3 7 0 4 73
21 BOISE STATE 9 4 11 6 1 11 1 1 73
26 NEBRASKA 11 4 6 7 5 7 0 4 72
26 LOUISIANA LAFAYETTE 10 4 8 9 3 5 1 4 72
26 SAN JOSE STATE 10 5 6 7 5 8 1 2 72
29 INDIANA 8 8 9 4 5 3 0 7 71
29 KANSAS 9 7 6 6 7 3 0 6 71
29 S. FLORIDA 11 6 3 6 7 7 1 3 71
29 TCU 14 5 5 4 2 6 1 7 71
29 NEVADA 9 3 10 6 3 11 0 2 71
34 NORTH CAROLINA 13 4 3 7 5 6 1 5 70
34 COLORADO 8 2 9 11 5 6 0 3 70
34 SYRACUSE 11 4 6 6 5 7 0 5 70
34 HOUSTON 10 4 9 4 3 10 0 4 70
34 TEMPLE 10 3 9 8 3 5 0 6 70
34 KENT 10 5 6 6 5 8 1 3 70
40 RICE 7 4 11 6 4 9 0 3 69
40 AKRON 13 2 6 6 3 8 0 6 69
40 UNLV 12 4 6 6 3 6 1 6 69
40 ARIZONA 9 5 10 6 3 3 0 8 69
44 BOSTON COLLEGE 11 4 6 5 4 9 1 4 68
44 OHIO STATE 12 3 7 5 3 7 0 7 68
44 OREGON STATE 9 5 8 4 5 8 0 5 68
44 STANFORD 10 4 6 7 6 5 0 6 68
44 TROY 9 3 10 8 2 6 1 5 68
44 FLA INTERNATIONAL 9 3 5 7 8 11 0 1 68
50 N. ILLINOIS 8 4 9 7 5 5 0 6 67
50 COLORADO ST. 9 5 9 4 3 8 1 5 67
52 ILLINOIS 7 4 8 9 5 7 2 2 66
52 MISSOURI 7 2 12 6 3 11 0 3 66
52 CINCINNATI 7 3 10 8 5 6 0 5 66
52 SAN DIEGO ST. 11 0 8 8 2 11 1 3 66
52 FLA ATLANTIC 10 3 5 6 7 9 0 4 66
57 EAST CAROLINA 8 5 10 7 1 5 3 5 65
57 MARSHALL 7 6 9 7 4 3 2 6 65
57 UCF 9 6 8 2 5 6 0 8 65
57 TOLEDO 6 3 10 9 5 7 1 3 65
61 NORTHWESTERN 6 3 11 7 5 7 0 5 64
61 S. MISSISSIPPI 8 6 11 2 1 8 2 6 64
61 BALL STATE 7 4 7 6 8 8 0 4 64
61 UTAH 7 8 7 5 6 2 2 7 64
61 UL MONROE 7 3 12 6 3 6 0 7 64
66 GEORGIA TECH 10 4 8 3 3 8 1 7 63
66 WISCONSIN 8 4 10 3 3 10 1 5 63
66 TEXAS 10 4 8 3 4 6 0 9 63
66 MIAMI(OH) 9 2 6 5 7 12 0 3 63
66 WASHINGTON STATE 8 4 8 6 6 4 0 8 63
71 USC 8 2 6 10 7 5 1 5 62
71 SOUTH CAROLINA 8 3 7 6 6 9 1 4 62
71 GEORGIA 7 3 8 8 6 6 1 5 62
74 MIAMI (FLA) 9 3 8 4 5 7 0 8 61
74 NORTH CAROLINA ST 8 1 6 9 8 7 0 5 61
74 PENN STATE 7 3 11 4 4 8 0 7 61
74 BAYLOR 6 8 6 4 8 4 2 6 61
74 WEST VIRGINIA 10 3 7 4 5 6 0 9 61
74 TULSA 5 4 9 7 6 9 2 2 61
74 BUFFALO 10 4 6 5 3 8 3 5 61
74 FRESNO STATE 13 0 4 5 4 12 1 5 61
82 CLEMSON 6 4 7 9 6 6 3 3 60
82 MINNESOTA 7 2 11 7 4 4 0 9 60
82 EASTERN MICHIGAN 10 4 7 2 3 10 2 6 60
82 CENTRAL MICHIGAN 8 1 6 7 8 10 0 4 60
82 WYOMING 6 3 6 10 9 4 1 5 60
82 ARIZONA STATE 3 3 13 9 4 7 2 3 60
88 OKLAHOMA STATE 6 4 11 3 5 7 0 8 59
88 TULANE 8 4 4 4 10 8 0 6 59
90 DUKE 10 2 6 5 6 5 0 10 58
90 MICHIGAN STATE 9 4 7 2 6 6 0 10 58
92 VIRGINIA TECH 7 3 9 5 6 4 0 10 57
92 MISSISSIPPI STATE 7 2 7 7 8 5 0 8 57
94 NOTRE DAME 6 3 8 6 6 8 2 5 56
94 BOWLING GREEN 8 3 8 5 4 6 2 8 56
94 MISSISSIPPI 9 5 6 3 5 4 2 10 56
97 TEXAS TECH 11 2 4 4 6 6 1 10 55
97 W KENTUCKY 8 1 4 8 10 5 0 8 55
99 CONNECTICUT 6 2 8 4 8 9 0 7 54
100 VIRGINIA 5 2 11 6 4 7 2 7 53
100 PURDUE 5 2 10 5 5 10 2 5 53
100 OKLAHOMA 6 3 8 4 6 9 2 6 53
100 PITTSBURGH 7 2 7 6 7 5 1 9 53
100 WESTERN MICHIGAN 7 4 6 3 7 8 2 7 53
100 FLORIDA 7 6 9 1 3 5 3 10 53
106 WAKE FOREST 6 1 9 8 5 5 2 8 52
106 FLORIDA STATE 6 1 8 7 6 8 2 6 52
106 MICHIGAN 4 6 7 5 7 6 4 5 52
106 TEXAS A&M 4 3 8 5 8 10 2 4 52
106 SMU 4 2 12 5 4 9 2 6 52
106 KENTUCKY 7 0 8 6 6 9 1 7 52
112 MARYLAND 6 2 8 4 6 10 2 6 51
112 UCLA 3 3 12 6 5 5 2 8 51
112 ALABAMA 4 3 9 6 8 4 1 9 51
115 TENNESSEE 9 3 7 2 4 5 2 12 50
116 RUTGERS 5 2 7 6 7 9 3 5 49
117 VANDERBILT 4 3 10 3 4 12 4 4 48
118 BYU 6 5 7 6 1 5 8 6 46
119 NEW MEXICO 7 0 6 3 7 11 2 8 44
120 LSU 6 0 10 3 5 5 1 14 42

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  • mmortal03

    I’m confused. Are you not publishing your new chart?

  • http://www.philsteele.com Phil Steele

    My new chart is located on page 311 in the magazine and also posted in my June 4th blog. I updated this breakdown due to the request of several fans who wanted to see the changes in the two deep since May.

  • mmortal03

    Thanks, Phil! Now that you’ve clarified this, what I’d be really interested to see is those changes in the two deep since May, applied to your new chart. Keep up the great work, sir!

  • mmortal03

    Thanks so much for clarifying. Based on that, what I’d be really interested to see is those changes since May applied to your new chart.

  • http://www.philsteele.com Phil Steele

    I have recently updated my experience chart that is listed on page 311 and will post it in pdf format sometime this week on the PhilSteele.com site. Thanks